11-26-2008 6:30 AM
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tree

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Bangladesh
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Re: New possibility of Global Fund Literacy: Bengali Version of Global Fund Website!
Thanks for your response. I am fine always with all situations around me by coping as much as I can.
Can you please update me about the forum activities and sex workers convention by UNFPA?
I don’t know why but in reality I am not updated and informed anything now a day as civil society organization or supporter of sex workers human right or translator or any other capability or incapability!
I don’t’ know when we all will be able to express truly and will be accepted non-judgmentally.
I wish every success of the convention and creative actions from community for discovering capability and in capabilities people around them.
Best regards,
Raju
--- On Tue, 11/25/08, asharao <bounce-asharao@myglobalfund.org> wrote:
From: asharao <bounce-asharao@myglobalfund.org> Subject: Re: [Open Discussions] New possibility of Global Fund Literacy: Bengali Version of Global Fund Website! To: treeraju@yahoo.com Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 9:00 PM
Thanks Raju for this information. How are you doing?
Warm wishes,
Asha
From: tree <bounce-tree@myglobalfund.org> To: asharao1@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:40:34 AM Subject: [Open Discussions] New possibility of Global Fund Literacy: Bengali Version of Global Fund Website! Dear Robert and rest of world,
May be this is the perfect time to initiate discussion about next possible languages at the website!
In normal course, very few electronic forums work for change finally but here we found it differently, e-forum can be means of change in reality.
Letʼs see by clicking bellow status of Bengali speaking people from Bangladesh and India together:
Please note that all together more than 300,000,000 speaking bangle around the world! And I am not sure but can imagine, may be in terms of HIV vulnerability Bengali speaking population will be one of the most top position.
I must welcome other people to interact with necessity and possibilities for increasing global fund literacy around the world.
For now, I can request global fund authority to include Bengali version of the website soonest possible to make it more global.
Regards,
Raju
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11-26-2008 6:24 AM
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Mahbubul Islam Bhuiyan

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Bangladesh
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Re: Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond dichotomy
Dear Bobby, Robert, Raju and others
Congratulation!!
You have made it reality at last. A space for "others"!
Your initiative will acknowledge at least by who are mostly stigmatize and marginalized population in the mainstream(?)society.
Global fund not only give them space but also made a HISTORY. I salute all of you who are actively participate this debate and made it happen.
Sincerely
Mahbub
ICDDR,B
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11-26-2008 5:58 AM
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asharao

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Thailand
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Re: New possibility of Global Fund Literacy: Bengali Version of Global Fund Website!
Thanks Raju for this information. How are you doing?
Warm wishes,
Asha
From: tree <bounce-tree@myglobalfund.org> To: asharao1@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:40:34 AM Subject: [Open Discussions] New possibility of Global Fund Literacy: Bengali Version of Global Fund Website!
Dear Robert and rest of world,
May be this is the perfect time to initiate discussion about next possible languages at the website!
In normal course, very few electronic forums work for change finally but here we found it differently, e-forum can be means of change in reality.
Letʼs see by clicking bellow status of Bengali speaking people from Bangladesh and India together:
http://anthro.palomar.edu/language/language_1.htm
Please note that all together more than 300,000,000 speaking bangle around the world! And I am not sure but can imagine, may be in terms of HIV vulnerability Bengali speaking population will be one of the most top position.
I must welcome other people to interact with necessity and possibilities for increasing global fund literacy around the world.
For now, I can request global fund authority to include Bengali version of the website soonest possible to make it more global.
Regards,
Raju
The Open Discussions forum is where you can start you own discussion on a topic related to the implementation of Global Fund-supported grants. If you donʼt want to receive this forum by email and wish to unsubscribe to this mailing list, please go to the forums subscription page.If you have any question regarding forum subscription/unsubscription or you would like to send your comments, please contact the MyGlobalFund support team at support@myglobalfund.org. This forum is a service offered by
MyGlobalFund, the community site for sharing ideas and best practices in the fight against AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria.
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11-26-2008 5:19 AM
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bobby

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Bangladesh
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Re: Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond dichotomy
Dear Robert and colleagues,
First attachment is a poster prepared by ICDDR,B, Tree Foundation Limited and Badhan Hijra Shangha as the BCC outcome of the project entitled "Socialization and sexuality construction of the hijra: Implications for STI/HIV and sexual health intervnetions in Bangladesh" (funded by DFID), demanding their separate gender space in the society as their basic human rights.
We have prepared a packge of BCC materials which include two volumes of hand drawn flip charts, one booklet, three posters, three stickers, one leaflet and a CD containing all electronic versions of the materials on hijra community by translating our three years ethnographic research findings. The BCC materials were conceptualized and designed by active participation of the hijra community in every step.
I am also attaching a sticker claiming the basic human rights of the hijra in a very simple expression:
Hijra = Human being
Regards
Bobby
Poster
Sticker
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11-26-2008 4:37 AM
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bobby

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Bangladesh
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Re: Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond dichotomy
Dear Robert and all colleagues at TGF,
I congratulate and salute you from the core of my heart for creating a cyber-space for people who are not comfortable with male-female gender dichotomy. TGF has made a history!
However, this is not the end of our journey! Now we have to be more committed and action oriented to create their social, cultural, polictical and other structural space in our society, so they can live a life of a human being beyond gender prejudice !
Regards
Bobby
ICDDR,B
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11-26-2008 4:35 AM
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tree

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Bangladesh
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New possibility of Global Fund Literacy: Bengali Version of Global Fund Website!
Dear Robert and rest of world,
May be this is the perfect time to initiate discussion about next possible languages at the website!
In normal course, very few electronic forums work for change finally but here we found it differently, e-forum can be means of change in reality.
Let’s see by clicking bellow status of Bengali speaking people from Bangladesh and India together:
http://anthro.palomar.edu/language/language_1.htm
Please note that all together more than 300,000,000 speaking bangle around the world! And I am not sure but can imagine, may be in terms of HIV vulnerability Bengali speaking population will be one of the most top position.
I must welcome other people to interact with necessity and possibilities for increasing global fund literacy around the world.
For now, I can request global fund authority to include Bengali version of the website soonest possible to make it more global.
Regards,
Raju
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11-25-2008 7:56 PM
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tree

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Bangladesh
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Re: Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond dichotomy
Dear Robert,
Thanks for info and creating history!
I and Bobby was discussing last night about it. We were waiting for response but your silence for last few days was helping us to be suspicious in many ways like, may be you are in pressure from policy level or you are responding show cause notice for interacting with us so spontaneously or you are going to respond soon with positive news like this. We both were really empathized by thinking all these possibilities.
Anyway, we are happy and may be communities will be happier than us and will congratulate you soon.
Now, I would like to request you to initiate new discussion on language issue, not only Bangla but also some other possible language to touch more people meaningfully.
Congratulation! AND I can say it’s a history of global fund and special moment for many of us!
For now I can remember Bhadhon Hijra Shongho, Bangladesh and their members who agreed to be appear as model of the concept for adding new box for people who are not comfortable by clicking boxes for MALE or FEMALE only in traditional way! It was 2002.
Congratulation Badhon Hijra Shongho BANGLADESH!
Bobby will share you some more of our work that we did before together expecting this history!
Regards,
Raju
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11-25-2008 5:59 PM
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Robert Bourgoing

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Global Fund Secretariat
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Re: Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond dichotomy
Dear Bobby and Raju,
Your idea has become reality. When you are logged in and click on the "Edit Profile" link (on the "MyPage" or at the top of any page), you now have a third possibility to describe your gender:
Thanks again for bringing this to our attention.
All the best
Robert
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11-20-2008 5:04 PM
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bobby

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Bangladesh
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Re: RE: Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond dichotomy
Dear Robert,
Perfect! Please go ahead and make a cyber space at least for these stigmatized people
who are socially, culturally and politically excluded from the greater society. Our
next step should be creating a geopolitical space for them in our society. Robert,
rather than searching for examples, let's make an example by acknowledging peoples'
sexual and gender rights in the global fund's web site! Let others follow our example!
I will soon post the posters we prepared to acknowledge gender rights of people living
with alternate gender.
We need to remember unless and untill we respect people and acknowledge their basic
human rights, behavioral interventions may remain mechanistic and can hardly change
peoples' quality of life including sexual.
Lastly, I must congratulate TGF to be respectful to people irrespective of their
gender and sexual orientations! Let's work together for a safe and healthy morning!
Regards
Bobby
On 20 Nov 2008 11:27:01 +0100, Robert Bourgoing wrote
> Hi Raju and Bobby,
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> What if we added a third option called "Other" followed by a line where people
> can, if they wish, write down their own description? Something like this:
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> Regarding your other suggestion Raju about holding discussions in other
> languages than English, French, Spanish and Russian, this is a big and
> important topic and I would invite you to start it in a new discussion thread.
> I will be glad to discuss it with you and other members.
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> Robert
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> View this message online at: http://myglobalfund.org/forums/p/2681/5817.aspx#5817
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ICDDR,B
Mohakhali, Dhaka-1212
Bangladesh
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11-20-2008 11:40 AM
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tree

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Bangladesh
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Re: RE: Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond dichotomy
Dear All,
It’s great to realize that my/our global fund is so interactive and extempore. YES Robert, it can be one way to respect people who are not comfortable to feel themselves man or woman (but surely human).
Will get back to you soon with language issue and without covering more and more language global fund can not be global. Hope we have that small fund to make it global in real sense. Even if we don’t have fund at this point I will love to give some time with skills in Bengali translation as my contribution to see global fund globally accepted by language.
Regards,
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11-20-2008 11:22 AM
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Robert Bourgoing

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Global Fund Secretariat
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Re: RE: Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond dichotomy
Hi Raju and Bobby,
What if we added a third option called "Other" followed by a line where people can, if they wish, write down their own description? Something like this:
Regarding your other suggestion Raju about holding discussions in other languages than English, French, Spanish and Russian, this is a big and important topic and I would invite you to start it in a new discussion thread. I will be glad to discuss it with you and other members.
Robert
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11-20-2008 10:22 AM
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tree

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Bangladesh
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Re: RE: Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond dichotomy
Dear Bobby and Robert,
I do appreciate both of you for taking the issue in consideration. Actually, it’s very common in most of so called development sector ignoring ground reality knowingly or unknowingly. Rapid response from Robert proves the 2nd cause here. May be we are preconceived in many ways and still needs to get out ourselves to get in non-judgmentally for intervening properly.
I will join with you for searching good ways to create space for everyone. Additionally, I would like to propose Bengali version of Global fund website for few reasons like number of people speaks in Bangla around the world those is vulnerable including India, Bangladesh and other part of the world.
At least a monthly bulletin or discussion synopsis can be published in some other language as well for reaching out community in real sense.
Regards,
Raju from TREE
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11-20-2008 4:58 AM
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bobby

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Bangladesh
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RE: Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond dichotomy
Dear Robert,
Regarding the third option, I think you make it open, so that
any one not comfortable with male and female, can write gender identity, for example,
some can write “transgender”, some can pick up their traditional name such “hijra”….and
so on. In some places I have seen the third option named as “others” where
people can specify they want. If I come across any website, I will pass to you.
Many thanks for your attention and concerns.
Regards
Bobby
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202@myglobalfund.org [mailto:202@myglobalfund.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Bourgoing
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:32 PM
To: sharful@icddrb.org
Subject: Re: [Open Discussions] Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond
dichotomy
Can you indicate what is good practice regarding this third
option? Do you have examples of websites which display this option (with links
we could look at)? Thanks for your message and suggestion!
The Open Discussions forum is where you can start you own discussion on a topic
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11-19-2008 3:30 PM
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Robert Bourgoing

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Switzerland
Global Fund Secretariat
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Re: Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond dichotomy
Dear Bobby,
Can you indicate what is good practice regarding this third option? Do you have examples of websites which display this option (with links we could look at)? Thanks for your message and suggestion!
Robert
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11-19-2008 5:20 AM
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bobby

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Bangladesh
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Negotiating marginalizing: Gender beyond dichotomy
While I was filling up my profile, I found Gender as usual has two options: Male and Female. I have not filled up my gender as a token of my "protest" against such mistake done by TGF. We are aware that the Global Fund (TGF) has shown its respect for sexual minorities. I think to further strengthen this commitment and to acknowledge the sexual and gender rights of all human being as their basic human rights, TGF can take up the initiative to have a third option under gender category beyond Male and Female in order to allow people to choose and write their gender in their preferred way.
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